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    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    My brother in law has a cabanon (shed) and he rides too. He's in Laval, so I could definitely do my work there.. I think I could do the oil changes in the ruelle behind my house. That wouldn't be too much of a problem. The valve checks require taking the crank case off and that means exposing it to dirt. So probably not the smartest thing to do outside.

    No question, the 690 is a WAY smarter choice.. Much less maintenance..

    On the other hand that 500 looks like a piss load of fun!

    Agree about that 500 it must a total blast and street legal , ktm has some days around July that we can test drive some demo bike , that be a good time to compare the 2

    a while back I had a dodge maxi van that I used to carry bikes and as a workshop , kind of tight but it worked , a closed trailer be the best , just need to find where to park it , but like you say light maintenance can be done out side , could actually do it under a nice orange ktm tent after a mecaglisse track day )))

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    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    HA!

    I was referring to what appears to be a WR250 parked out front.. Not something you see every day.. Well unless you are Erol and own one. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    Cool videos !

    Now going in the complete other direction in terms of maintenance, I see no one here is really contemplating the 500 EXC.

    I've been looking at videos on how to do the valve check:



    ..and it's not _that_ complicated.

    I raced bicycles for years and years and I was doing maintenance on my bikes weekly.. I also ride all winter and salt just kills parts. So having to do work on my bike isn't something that bugs me. I don't own a garage however, so I'd have to do this maintenance on the street or more likely in the laneway behind my house.

    That, and I figure I will do maybe 2000-3000km a year, MAX.. I doubt I'd even do that. My commute to work is 5km.

    So that would mean having to do 3 maybe 4 oil changes a year and maybe 1 max 2 valve checks a year. Not the end of the world really..

    Hmmm am I crazy ?
    What trouble me about the video is that never once we see the tech use a calibrated torque wrench while all bolt torque values are easily accesseble from the owner manual and maintenance manual

    It look like fun but I would prefer to do this once per year in the off season relax with a cold beer ))

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    I can remember being a kid when I started racing bicycles. We used to just crank down everything as tight as it will go.

    Now ? Now you need a torque wrench otherwise you'll crack all the carbon fibre bits that cost a fortune!

    I notice a lot of mechanics on YouTube never use torque wrenches. I know none of the pro mechanics in the pro cycling world use them. But they get all their parts for free. And none of them actually repair anything, they just swap the whole thing out for a new one. I can't quite afford to to that.

    I got a good kick out of this one:




    He rambles on how it's important to do all the maintenance and how this guy hasn't done any valve checks in like 80hrs and they take the valve cover off, do the check and they are in spec, and they start to giggle like school girls.

    There's also this thread on M4E if you are bored:

    http://m4e.com/showthread.php/153936...F-et-500-EXC-F

    There was someone making the comment that if you just ride that 500 on the streets, don't race it, you can go 1000km before needing an oil change.. I guess it all comes down to what you are comfortable with. I hear a lot that those recommendations are for people riding the piss out of them in races. Just putzing around town is another story.

    I get the feeling this winter is going to be loonnnggg

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    I never owned a torque wrench before buying my WRX. My $6k DH bike never got babied with a torque wrench, I just tightened everything down until it wouldn't fall off. Now I have a torque wrench so I don't screw up my block doing my yearly oil changes. (Oil filter has 3 bolts that have a bad reputation)


    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    I get the feeling this winter is going to be loonnnggg
    Last winter was long and I didn't have my full licence yet. This winter is already F-ing long, and it's technically not even winter yet.
    At this rate, I'll go "coo-coo-bananas" before spring, or worse, full on "wack-a-doodle"...
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    Make sence that if the 500 did not get the extreme heat stress and dirt from racing that the service interval could be stretch , funny how that guy in the clip giggle lol like it would be the first time it would occur lol , quit sure they must have a test bike with those interval stretch to max , they must have those interval set to prevent the worst case a bit like in aerospace , I guess after doing it like they call it in the manual for the first year the interval can be stretch

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    Torque wrench or not , I got the habit of using it when I was kart racing and it stick to this day , help to keep the tread load in spec mostly important on multi bolt Assembly with high heat stress like cylinder head , ultimately does it really make a diff may be not , may be I am the crazy one hahaha , but it can be seen as that extra love for the bike .

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    went to the dealer on sat , sitting on a superduke , that would be a nasty beast too but with all this talk about the 500 have to say I was looking for one lol they had none so I left with a 690 shop manual CD , that kind of reading should help to make the winter wait go by faster

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    Evol how about making the winter time useful , as a bike teardown , cleanup , inspect , fix , It could be a good way to stay in contact with the sport and avoids going banana lol , perfect time for heavy maintenance or mod

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    God bless BC, 8 degrees and sunny. Now if my bike was out of the shop that would be awesome ...FML

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelieit View Post
    God bless BC, 8 degrees and sunny. Now if my bike was out of the shop that would be awesome ...FML
    I did get to spend almost a full year in Victoria B.C. While back , kind of jealous cuz you can use the bike all year round plus go to the mountain for skiing or snowmobiling , but got to say those Montreal summer are kind of HOT in every sence of the word

    Hope you get it back soon

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    I spent two summers planting trees in northern BC and I hated every minute of it. ;-)

    I have never seen so much rain before. And bugs the size of hummingbirds too.

    I raced a few times in Victoria as well.. and a few races in Delta as well.. Vancouver really is spectacular place. Every winter I look into moving there and then I see the price of houses and think "maybe next year". ;-)

    Definitely jealous of your weather.. well when it isn't raining that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    went to the dealer on sat , sitting on a superduke , that would be a nasty beast too but with all this talk about the 500 have to say I was looking for one lol they had none so I left with a 690 shop manual CD , that kind of reading should help to make the winter wait go by faster
    Which dealer ? Have you decided which wheels to get ?

    Let me know how and what you decide to do finally.. Are you going to mod it ? New seat ? New exhaust ?

    As for getting through winter, I try and focus on the signs of spring instead of spring.

    For instance, the Tour Down Under which is a fairly big bike race in Australia starts Jan 17 or so. You can normally find a live feed on the web. Once that's on, I start to feel spring coming.. Then it's all the races in Arab countries.. then comes Paris Nice and by then we are pretty well there.

    But for motorcycles, I guess the first real sign is the bike show. I've never been. What's it like ?

    Still have my eye on the 500. I just can't decide to get it this summer or spring 2016. I don't want to have to finance it.. $15K after all is said and done I figure. Gonna be hard to pull that off in 7 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    But for motorcycles, I guess the first real sign is the bike show. I've never been. What's it like ?
    Good and bad...hahahaha

    It is good to go to the show and see all the bikes and gear, but it's mainly geared towards the Harley / cruiser crowd.

    Last year, KTM had the 500 EXC, 690 Enduro R, and 690 Duke (and others).
    The year before, they had a 500 EXC in supermoto trim.

    It's also a good place to try on gear before you buy. I found which models / sizes I needed then ordered them afterwards.

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    So, we'll meet up there ?
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    I was in the Trois-Rivieres area last weekend so I stop by motosport4saison , that where I sign for the bike , I eard nothing but good comment from them


    Will order my SM kit in February look like it going to be ktm wheels unless a big diff in $ ,with the excel then I will go for Excel , beringer calliper and master at the front with a 310 disk , michelin PP3 , seat and suspension .for the 2 last I am still looking for options

    Eventually I like to install an evo 2 kit or some equivalent , 75 hp sound like a nice round number I would like to get from the bike ..... Eventually ....will see

    How about you shampoo , how far do you want to go into the SM conversion


    So we meet at the KTM stand , seriously I can t say if or when I be going cuz I may be burning some 2 stoke gas with my snowmobile buddies , will see in the week before

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    How about you shampoo , how far do you want to go into the SM conversion


    So we meet at the KTM stand , seriously I can t say if or when I be going cuz I may be burning some 2 stoke gas with my snowmobile buddies , will see in the week before

    Obviously the wheels, probably KTM wheels but I wouldn't mind a set of decent orange rims. The KTM's only seem to come in black. I'll have to do some more reading on the WARP9 and the quality.

    Maybe the front brake, but that I'm not sure of either. Ideally I'd like to find a used 500 next year. But there aren't a lot and given the maintenance schedules on the 500, not sure buying used is a good idea.

    I will definitely be going to the bike show. I had a funny feeling it was mostly cruisers. As a member of Gen X those baby boomers shadowed us all.. even in bikes ! You gotta wonder for how much longer cruisers will be the big sellers.. I did my moto school this summer, and not one guy there was looking to get a cruiser. I think Harley knows this too.

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    I really enjoy a ride on an old school cruiser, especially longer rides. It's about the mood really, and all bikes have fun factor IMO.

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    Agree every bike has there fun factor , cruiser also best suited for couple and with the cost of these machine it can become a couple decision

    Since my wife has 1 % of the decision on my bike I get the 690 with pass peg for 1 % of ride as a 2 seater lol

    For those new rider out of driving school we get to see those smaller bike coming to the market , I would think it they would promote them at the show , but what I have seen with the past shows there is less and less interesting content

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    Ok I lied a little when I said no one wanted a cruiser.

    There was one guy in our class who was going to get a cruiser, but he wanted a sport tourer. He had shall we say, an impressive gut and he couldn't fit said gut over the gas tank on the bikes we had in our class.. So he was going to get a cruiser.

    I rode one and they are definitely comfy. I just couldn't see myself getting one.. ever. But hey, I'm with the rest of you; a bike is cool no matter the bike.

    As I get older, I could probably see myself switching to an adventure bike. Not sure if you watch YouTube videos, but Baron Von Grumble is riding one.. I think mostly because if he stays on his Gixxer he'll be banned from riding!



    Never in a million years did I see the Baron on a GS..

    Oh ya, I meant to ask you, who knows what about Enduro trails in Quebec? I see there's one in Oureau ? I can't seem to find the entrance using Google Street View.

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    Shampoo take a look at this web site for your orange wheels

    Www.radmfg.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    Oh ya, I meant to ask you, who knows what about Enduro trails in Quebec? I see there's one in Oureau ? I can't seem to find the entrance using Google Street View.
    http://www.fqmhr.qc.ca/en/trails/provincial-map/
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    Ya I saw that.. I think one of the entrances is here: https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.03002...dlxY0SXYeQ!2e0 Is that right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    Shampoo take a look at this web site for your orange wheels

    Www.radmfg.com

    Thanks! I'll take a look at that..

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    Very nice specialy the 500 in Sherbrooke and it has orange SM wheels look like it got your name on it

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    Did you check that web site above , you can get excel wheel with many diff anodize Color ,,,, orange , gold , pink , etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    Did you check that web site above , you can get excel wheel with many diff anodize Color ,,,, orange , gold , pink , etc

    Ya, but I didn't see anything for a 500.. only the 690.. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.

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    Cool

    $9k for the already sumo'd 500 EXC is nice.

    This was "me" on Feb 1st 2013 about to buy either a 690 Enduro R or 500 EXC....



    I put it back in the bank. Maybe next time.
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    Nice pic , what ever make us happy , I think it come down to find the balance point , 4.5k for a drz and 4.5 k in saving for futur investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    Nice pic , what ever make us happy , I think it come down to find the balance point , 4.5k for a drz and 4.5 k in saving for futur investment
    ...and I doubt you could argue that the KTM option was worth the extra 4.5K.

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    Would sell my shirt to get that 9k for the ktm

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    Would sell my shirt to get that 9k for the ktm

    I'd like to see that shirt! ;-)

    My gf and I bought our first house this past May. The downpayment pretty well emptied my account. Not to mention the 100 trips to Home Despot that cost a fortune and the maudit taxe de Bienvenue which was the icing on top.

    I had to borrow money out of my RRSP to cover the downpayment and my goal has been to pay that off for March. So looking at my account and the money for the KTM is "there", it's just not earmarked for _that_. ;-)

    Then if I do the math on what I spent this year on motorcycle related stuff, it makes even less sense to buy that KTM. I calculate I spent close to $7000 on the classes, the bike, pants, jacket, gloves, boots and helmet. And I don't think I rode 1000km this year. Not exactly a great return on my investment.

    So all in all, I don't think I'll be buying anything until 2016... as much as I'd like to. Hell, I don't even have my full license yet ! It would be completely pointless buying another bike only to have to ask my babysitter to ride down with me to pick it up. ;-)

    So hopefully one of you guys will get one so I can live vicariously through you. ;-)

    Oh look, it's snowing.

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    That cool , I understand been there , done that , would get a house over any bike for sure , I own 2 old house one of witch was built in 1928 so for the last 10 years I been spending countless holiday and weekend on Reno and still have some to do , that is money in the bank ,

    Old house are solid they made to last but they need facelift trough those Reno,,,and that get to be sooooo time consuming that I am thinking the next one should be a self construct , I have friends who did this and it is a 6 month well invest and tons of money return on the house value

    Here what I was told to do ,

    Show the bank you have the cash down , ( value from the current house or actual cash)
    Get the max loan from the bank ,,( materail , labor , all to the max )
    Do the construction with max saving by doing most of it your self and an expert bodie
    If done well at the end should have extra left from the loan to cover some 6 to 12 month morgage until the first house is sold

    Then get the bike of your choice for the reward of the work well done

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    We are now getting horribly off topic.. But that's OK. ;-)

    I got myself into some nasty debt several years ago. Nothing to show for either.. Just a lot of crap really. It took me five years of living like a monk to dig myself out of that hole.

    I promised myself NEVER again. So unless the cash is in the account, I don't buy it.

    When we bought the house, I explained to my gf that if we couldn't put down 25%, then we couldn't afford the house. It seemed like a good way of filtering out what we could and couldn't afford.

    Buying and fixing old houses is a great way to go.. assuming you have the skills to do it. So way to go! That's impressive. Especially if that old house you buy has some nice enduro trails in the back.. ;-)

    I did some math this morning and a new bike purchase might be possible after I pass my exam in July. But it's going to be pretty tight.

    It's too bad you can't rent them for the day. At least I don't see who rents them like that. I guess I'll have to wait for the KTM demo day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    So unless the cash is in the account, I don't buy it.
    That is the best way to buy stuff !!!!

    When I bought my WR250X almost 2 years ago now, I had the money in the account, but life would be tight, so my wife and I decided together to take money out of our line of credit at the bank, paid off the bike, and we repaid the loan in a month...Yes, it cost me a little bit extra in interest, but life was easy instead of being tight.
    I'd do it like that again as long as it would be paid off within 6 months MAX, otherwise I would wait until the cash was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    That is the best way to buy stuff !!!!

    When I bought my WR250X almost 2 years ago now, I had the money in the account, but life would be tight, so my wife and I decided together to take money out of our line of credit at the bank, paid off the bike, and we repaid the loan in a month...Yes, it cost me a little bit extra in interest, but life was easy instead of being tight.
    I'd do it like that again as long as it would be paid off within 6 months MAX, otherwise I would wait until the cash was there.

    I got myself into trouble by always thinking that the "money would come".. It of course never came. Now granted, I did zero planning, I just assumed.

    As a result, I refuse to buy anything on credit. I get very anal about not buying on credit as I picture those years where I was up to my eyeballs in debt and it's not a good memory.

    Not sure if you've seen this yet but I think this kid's videos to be just fantastic..



    Last day of work for me. I am on vacation !

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    Very nice. Video

    Been in dept and broke , i did get the taste of that too while back I was racing bike ( road racing ) until I ran out of money , completly broke , took me many years to recover and all this time was drewling over the R1 , thinking some day .... Some day ... , well that some day came to be recently as I had to refinance the house for some RENO ,took some extra for a bike , R1 been out of question now , enduro/SM seem to make more sence

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    Good for you I am working the weekend and until Tuesday then my turn to be on holiday )

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    Very nice. Video

    Been in dept and broke , i did get the taste of that too while back I was racing bike ( road racing ) until I ran out of money , completly broke , took me many years to recover and all this time was drewling over the R1 , thinking some day .... Some day ... , well that some day came to be recently as I had to refinance the house for some RENO ,took some extra for a bike , R1 been out of question now , enduro/SM seem to make more sence

    Whoa.. I had no idea you raced! That is very cool. But I think we'll have to postpone our ride next year until 2020 when I can actually keep up with you. ;-)

    I thought racing bicycles was expensive, I can only imagine what racing motorcycles costs. Where did you race ? All over the US ?

    I have a buddy who races sail boats. I asked him what it was like. He replied: "take a cold shower with all your clothes on, and throw $20 bills out the window, one after the other. ;-) "

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    I just wanted to say Merry Christmas to all my fellow Montrealers who ride (or want to ride) Supermotos!

    All the best to you and your families!

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    Merry Christmas everyone!

    We're doing the "green Christmas" thing this year as we're in Florida visiting my inlaws. Disney on Monday, the beach yesterday, the pool today. I'm exhausted.... hahaha
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    Merry Christmas fellow Montrealers and riders

    I did two seasons with the fast championship at shanonville then I was hoping to get a gsx r 750 or a fzr 600 to race in the production class but ran out of money

    In the us I did attend a 3 days seminar with the California superbike school at walkin glen track , but that was all a long time ago so I could be the one trying to keep up with you

    Racing in any Motorsport is expensive , always looking to get the best part , fresh tire , traveling , crashes , ext , to be competitive sponsor are a must

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post

    Racing in any Motorsport is expensive , always looking to get the best part , fresh tire , traveling , crashes , ext , to be competitive sponsor are a must

    I sometimes watch Marcel Irnie's videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/irnieracing and it looks ridiculously expensive. I guess guys like Marcel are hoping to get picked up by a factory team ? I thought cycling lived in obscurity in our hockey filled world. But it looks to me like motorcycle racing is even more obscure and more expensive!

    Any news on your new bike @fwd25?

    I meant to ask @evol do you ride your sumo everywhere ? How often do you need your car ?

    Oh ya, I forgot to tell you, I got a US30 Kriega for Christmas. It will tie nicely down at the back of my Bandit. Any ideas if the rear fender is strong enough on most sumo bikes to handle the weight of luggage ? Or would I need to get a rack for it ? Just trying to figure out if this Kriega would work there..

    If I don't speak to you all again, Happy New Year, and let's hope 2015 is a great year for motorcycling for all of you.

    All the best !

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    Hey guys, I ride as much as I can. I only drive my cage when it rains, or if I'm going out with the family. I also gear up for every ride, and that includes my 15 min commute to work. I've even gone for a small grocery run with my backpack.
    I don't have any luggage on my bike, but a lot of the dual sport crowd install racks and luggage. Check out advrider.com for ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shampoo View Post
    If I don't speak to you all again, Happy New Year, and let's hope 2015 is a great year for motorcycling for all of US.
    I fixed it for you....
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    So apparently, this happens every Thursday night in Laval:



    Looks like you have to bring your own bike though..

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    Cool!
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    Hi guys have a great 2015 , health , love and great riding weather

    Look like action500 on the 440 next to the 15 , that a great idea to combine indoor karting and supermoto , will give them a call to find out more

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    I saw this today.. It might be of interest to some of you..

    Keep warm !

    J

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd25 View Post
    Hi guys have a great 2015 , health , love and great riding weather

    Look like action500 on the 440 next to the 15 , that a great idea to combine indoor karting and supermoto , will give them a call to find out more

    Did you manage to find anything out ? Looks like you have to bring your own mini sm bike.. That would be a drag for me.

    But I'd go watch if you did it!

    J

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