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    Anyone ride both the Husky and WRX? I guess I'd have to ride it first but damn, WHY NOT A 450!!!??

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    this was a 2007 japanese market bike first. blame it on globalization, along with license and insurance concerns in large markets. the usa is not the number one motorcycle consumer in the world...

    but yes, i too dream of a 400 or 450 version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teethandnails View Post
    good info so far...i think that this thread should be sticky'd for newbs!
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    Another Difference: The stock exhaust on the WRX radiates much more heat than the DRZ. You will not be riding in shorts on the WRX I can tell you that! HOT.

    When my aftermaket system comes I will give an update.
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    Hopefully yamaha will bring the euro 450 over here. If you can find it on utube there is the british tv commercial for the 450. Great comercial. Dude rides one right out of the office for a "commute" home..
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    Theres no euro wr450x!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruisinagasgas View Post
    Hopefully yamaha will bring the euro 450 over here. If you can find it on utube there is the british tv commercial for the 450. Great comercial. Dude rides one right out of the office for a "commute" home..
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    that is a wr250F in the video you mention,, not street legal in the USA.

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    Default Oil And Filter

    First oil change on the WRX today. Very easy. Yamaha reccomends 10-30 but I put in 20-50 and will go to semi sythetic at 1,000 miles. YMMV.

    The part number for a K&N filter is KN141.

    If you change filter and oil, you replace it with 1.4 US quarts.

    The only added complexity is checking the oil pressure by loosening a bleed bolt. Mine flowed oil within 5 seconds of starting.

    If you require detailed information on an oil and filter change I will make a post in the Yamaha section.

    I will call this one a tie, between the two. Very similar in costs and ease of use. Everything is right in the open and once you have done it an oil and filter change should be done in less than 15 minues start to finish.
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    Rowdy, have you gotten a service manual yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdy View Post
    Another difference between the two
    WR250X=Premium Gas ONLY
    DRZ400SM=regular Gasoline

    so save you a bit of coin...but stock to stock, the WRX seems to be getting 40-45mpg while the DRZ i got the same...modded the DRZ slipped down to 30-35mpg
    I own 2 (my brothers and mine) DRZ 400's that are modded and they get way more than 30-35mpg. Street they get about 40-50mpg and track its about 40-45mpg.

    Before mods both DRZ's were getting approx. 50-55mpg.

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    I get 55-60 mpg with my wrx

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    Has anyone ridden 2up just around town with one of these?

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    Can anyone else provide mileage info? I know the 250 is a high revver, but a BMW650GS gets 65mpg...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dysco View Post
    Can anyone else provide mileage info? I know the 250 is a high revver, but a BMW650GS gets 65mpg...
    Yeah My girlfriends f650gs gets 60-65mpg why not the DR-Z400sm? Always wondered about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frantik9 View Post
    Yeah My girlfriends f650gs gets 60-65mpg why not the DR-Z400sm? Always wondered about that.
    I put 35k miles on an F650GS and never got worse than 50. Did 65+ all the time. The difference is that it's fuel injected and the sweet spot is lower in the rev range. The 250 is going to rev more before it gets to where the torque curve wants to cruise and will use more gas because of it. Same deal with the 400. I'm hoping that the fuel injection will make a big difference in fuel economy but 50-55 is all I've heard so far, and that's only from a writer and the guy a few posts up.

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    I scraped peg on both sides at the track today, whats that tell you about the potential of this bike??
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    Can't wait till used ones start showing up in the local listings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdy View Post
    I scraped peg on both sides at the track today, whats that tell you about the potential of this bike??
    That the pegs are too low for much fun?

    Just messing with you. Glad you're enjoying the bike and thanks for the comparison. I plopped my buttocks on a WR250X last weekend at the dealer but can't yet get around my desire for an SM610 for longer distance rides and a bit more punch.
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    Rowdy what level of rider are you?

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    i have no idea. hahah, i cant wheelie, but i can stoppie. i can drag knee in a parking lot. ive been to 5 supermoto track days and raced cars, autocross, for years. been riding for 18 years. so, intermediate?

    the bike needs lots of throttle to jump well, that is my other comparison. and the stock tires on the WRX are waaaayyyyyy better than the stock tires on the DRZ!
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    cool thanks man!

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    when cruising at 70 mph on the freeway, what rpm are you turning?

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    Um. Id love to answer that question. But we have no tach.


    70mph, seeing how it idles at 1100.. Id say 5500-6300ish ? I dont know.

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    ITS OFFICIAL. i weighed the WRX finally at a decent scale. 288 pounds with half tank of gas. In a month or so when I have a different exhaust I will weigh it again.

    288 as ridden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdy View Post
    ITS OFFICIAL. i weighed the WRX finally at a decent scale. 288 pounds with half tank of gas. In a month or so when I have a different exhaust I will weigh it again.

    288 as ridden.
    So the listed weight is pretty close or 280 dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdy View Post
    ITS OFFICIAL. i weighed the WRX finally at a decent scale. 288 pounds with half tank of gas. In a month or so when I have a different exhaust I will weigh it again.

    288 as ridden.
    Good info, Rowdy. Thanks. Yamaha's dry weight spec is accurate, then.

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    if your strongbad, i get to be the Cheat!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha, i love that cartoon!!!

    my track psi was 26lbs front and rear HOT on the stock tires, if anyone wants to know. and i can give you my sag, preload, rebound and compression settins if anyone wants as well.......
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    DRZ SM with full aftermarket exhaust 311lbs
    WRX with lots of stuff stripped off 288lbs

    for the WRX being lighter by 23lbs.

    Anyone know where I can get the DOT race Bridgestone bt-090-pro's at reliably?? the wrx using a 140/70 rear tire is gonna be a killer to replace. ugh.
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    what are you talking about?
    My DRZ SM with Yosh RS3, on Industrial weight scale = 292 lbs with a 1/2 tank

    311lbs...........

    maybe you used a bathroom scale?
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    Suzuki website shows the DRZ SM at 295 dry.

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    Cycle World weighed the DRZ SM at 322lbs in June 2005 with a full tank of gas. Gasoline is 6lbs/gal and the drz has a 2.6gal tank, so that works out to 306lbs tank empty.

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    thank you for not calling me a liar or idiot for weighing a drz out at 311 lbs. smiley face or not. =)

    I now need to make up a chart that shows what i consider to be the winner of all the different catagories.

    Then it's just like the books you loved as a kid, "Choose your own Adventure"!!
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    thanks for all the input. I am seriously considering the 250. I dont know if I missed your review on the track (in the 9 pages of posts) of the 250. Have you ridden track with it, jumped and such. thanks.

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    you said you were going to test 0-60 times. Were you able to and i just missed the results?

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    0-60 didnt happen.
    Yes, i have tracked it and jumped it. Pics and such of that on a different thread I think... Yes, AND I DYNOED IT TODAY!! OVER 26HP AT THE REAR WHEEL!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdy View Post
    0-60 didnt happen.
    Yes, i have tracked it and jumped it. Pics and such of that on a different thread I think... Yes, AND I DYNOED IT TODAY!! OVER 26HP AT THE REAR WHEEL!!!
    What all did you do to the motor so far, other than removal of the pea shooter? No air box mod yet right?

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    as far as the track, i think i would like the -1t front sprocket the R enduro model has. im kind of in between gears certain places at the track i go to.

    suspension takes some fiddling to get it right, i dont think the adjustments are perfect out of the box. i am also very light at 130lbs and i would like it stiffer than it is. and lowered.

    BUUUTTTTT, i still carry more corner speed than i did on the DRZ and have faster lap times by almost 3 seconds around Adams.

    Here are some pics of the dyno run from yesterday.
    32hp at the rear wheel in 6th, almost off the rev limiter and 26.6hp in 4th gear at 9000rpm or so.

    max tourque of 16.79 looks to happen around 8,200 rpm.

    SO REV IT!!!!!!! haha
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    Default My Final Accoutning

    Points: 1=loser, 2=pretty close, 3=clearly better,winner

    This is all subjective and my personal opinion, so take it for what you want based on my experiences with both bikes and riding in general.

    Appearance/Fit/Finish/Styling
    DRZ=1 WRX=3
    Weight
    DRZ=1 WRX=3
    Modifications
    DRZ=3 WRX=1
    Gas Mileage
    DRZ=3 WRX=2
    Street Riding
    DRZ=2 WRX=2
    Freeway Riding
    DRZ=2 WRX=2
    Track Time at Adams Kart Track
    DRZ=1 WRX=3
    Ease of Oil Change
    DRZ=2 WRX=3
    Valve Adjustment Intervals
    DRZ=2 WRX=3
    Horsepower/Torque
    DRZ=3 WRX=2
    Comfort/Vibration
    DRZ=2 WRX=3

    TOTAL POINTS AWARDED
    DRZ=22 WXR=27

    Judging Criteria for each catergory were:
    Horsepower/Torque-who made what relative to engine size
    Vavle Adjustment Interval-greater length between reccomended services
    Ease of Oil Change-least amount of steps and things to fiddle with
    Track Time-fastest lap wins
    Freeway-looking at passing power, gearing, vibration and ultimate top speed
    Street Riding-Ease of flicking it around, seat height, quickness from stop light, gassing it up, on-off throttle response, noise levels
    Gas Mileage-better mpg equals more points
    Weight-ligher is better
    Modifications-which model has the most available right now
    Appearance-which model is fresher looking and gets the most comments from strangers about how good it looks

    Things I DIDN'T look at where stunting, resale, insurance, initial costs, availability and such.

    CONCLUSION-If you are on the fence, I would suggest you get the WRX with these caveats, 1. If you are a 'big guy' I would get the DRZ 2. If the first thing you think about is outright 'power' when wanting to compare the two, get the DRZ. Other than that, I would say buy the Yamaha and love it!!
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    Rowdy
    Great write up! Thanks for sharing.
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    So the DRZ gets better gas mileage than the WR,even w/mods? I wouldn't have thunk it...

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    my criteria behind that more accurately was that i could go 80miles on my modded drz and hit reserve while on my stock wrx i go 70 miles and hit reserve. the wrx gets better gas mileage, but its smaller tank kinda screws you. and no reserve, just an idiot light.
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    I'm clear on the judgement criteria. Thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdy View Post
    I scraped peg on both sides at the track today, whats that tell you about the potential of this bike??
    Here's some photographic proof!


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    yeah, i'm pretty sure I will go with the Yamaha now. Any one heard of the availability or release of future mods for this bike? Pipes, engine mods or bore kits, etc...? any websites already carrying stuff? thanks.

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    What is the oil change like on the WR? The DRZ seemed like more of a process with the two drain plugs, and oil filter-behind-the-cover.

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    Oil change = Easy mode IMO

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    Thats a nice looking Yamaha.
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    Have 200+ miles on my WR 250 X now and I'm loving it. No real knocks against my DRZ 400 SM but the WR is SO smooth. Yeah the 250 needs more "rowing", and cornering speed is key, but this is how I learned to ride and I like it! 1st two tanks showing 54 and 55 mpg with some fair flogging. Saw 60+ mpg regularly on the DRZ on longer drones. Thinking the main difference is simply RPM with the 400 having the torque to plug along in 5th gear more often than the 250 can stay in 6th. The 250 really likes to rev and even fuel injection can only do so much! %-)

    Will be interesting to watch the new hardware come out!
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    Tanked up yesterday 1.5 gallons if you can call that tanking up
    111 miles on the trip meter, 74 mpg! Been trying, sorta, to be kind to the motor until I get to 600 miles (250 to go), but still, that's incredible milage. Mixed riding, in town and highway, no stop & go traffic.

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