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    Quote Originally Posted by exit90a View Post
    I have been looking through all the major motorcycle tire MFG's charts for tire and rim compatibility and found they all indicate the 160/60-17 is made for a 4.5" rim and can be used with a 4.25" - 5" rims. The reason I was looking is that all the sport-touring tires are 150/70 or 160/60. I'm trying to determine which is best for my rim. It seems that the 150/70 is over an inch larger in diameter than the 150/60, while the 160/60 is only about a half inch larger than the 150/60. Hmmm, what to do?
    This is very true and all that should be considered when choosing between a 150 or a 160 width tyre!

    If the manufactures say their tyres would be best fitted to a 4.5" rim, but work just as well on a 4.25" or a 5", then who are we to argue?

    It's a matter of personal choice.

    I personally have fitted a 160/60/17 Diablo Rosso to my 4.25" rim and am very happy with the results.

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    Would 120/60 3.5" and 150/60 4.25" be good on my 17" rims?

    Thanks.

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    yep good combo...

    as far as the previous post...I would not go by the tire mfg printed recomendations.. this thread is the whole point.. the mfg's are giving you very "general" guidelines... this thread has to be read from the beginning......each mfg has different measurements for their particular tire size and they vary greatly..
    The picts had to be cleared as we were having bandwidth issues.. so I guess I should find some old picts and repost them.....
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    howdy gurus.

    I'm currently one month into a six month supermoto trip around south America on my 690.

    I knew from the beginning that tires would be a challenge, and I'm needing a new rear.

    I found a shinko 150/70/17 for 100 bucks in Lima and thinking about putting it on. its the shinko 705. I usually run either distanzias or just recently the mt60.

    any issues putting the 150 on a 5in rear? I know it'll be flatted out but for 100 I'm hoping it'll be good enough. I'm also hoping to get more than 3300kms which is why my rear had now and is almost completely slick at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    yep good combo...

    as far as the previous post...I would not go by the tire mfg printed recomendations.. this thread is the whole point.. the mfg's are giving you very "general" guidelines... this thread has to be read from the beginning......each mfg has different measurements for their particular tire size and they vary greatly..
    The picts had to be cleared as we were having bandwidth issues.. so I guess I should find some old picts and repost them.....
    But if i put a 150/70 instead of 150/60, that would just make the tire bigger in diameter right?
    Would it mess with the shape/roundness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snohobo View Post
    howdy gurus.

    I'm currently one month into a six month supermoto trip around south America on my 690.

    I knew from the beginning that tires would be a challenge, and I'm needing a new rear.

    I found a shinko 150/70/17 for 100 bucks in Lima and thinking about putting it on. its the shinko 705. I usually run either distanzias or just recently the mt60.

    any issues putting the 150 on a 5in rear? I know it'll be flatted out but for 100 I'm hoping it'll be good enough. I'm also hoping to get more than 3300kms which is why my rear had now and is almost completely slick at this point.
    look at what you had before.. that distanzia was a 160 ? Avon's tires are big for their size .... same with the MT 60 fairly wide for their labelled size...

    I would not put that 150 by 70 shinko on that 5 inch rim.....up to you.. If it were me noway...it's an inexpensive tire and If i remember correctly sizes small for its label....

    an old bike riding friend of mine once said.. the only thing between you and the emergency room is a shitty tire...so do you really want to push your luck with that tire on a rim that really is on the outer most for size compatability ? Avons are soft grippy tires and so are MT 60's...there has got to be other choices with out blowing the wad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody RW View Post
    But if i put a 150/70 instead of 150/60, that would just make the tire bigger in diameter right?
    Would it mess with the shape/roundness?
    the larger the 2nd number the higher the aspect ratio... so the 70 series is going to be a taller profile than the 60 series... the 60 series is going to appear rounder/flatter.
    I run a 5.4 inch rear wheel, I use a Dunny 170 by 55 tire, when its done completely it slides out easily and controllable...the taller profiles, narrower wheel would grip well but let go fast...for sm ..dunno about any other type of bike...If you power out of a corner when you are almost upright and carry alot of corner speed then maybe the taller profile works for you...I think it really depends on you... I started the thread way back because it was a constant question..also there was a ton more racers on the site back then..and tire patch was the big buzzz back then.. I guess its time to post new picts..next time I'm at the track I'll take some shots..
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    I started the thread way back because it was a constant question..also there was a ton more racers on the site back then..and tire patch was the big buzzz back then..
    I remember them days.
    Then I joined and have done my best to be a constant p.i.t.a ever since. I think I've done a good job of that and I am unanimous in my decision.

    A good example of an 'awakening' would be long-time member and old pal Goosedog.
    He ran a 160 distanza or scorpion sync on his 610 for years. Both on the 4.25" rim. Always swore that it was just fine, did everything great, fit fine no worries. And his 610 was trick, full Ohlins front and rear amongst lots of other stuff. We always ragged him that 160 was too big for that rim. Didn't matter, wasn't gonna run a 150. He was happy.

    Then he wanted black wheels. So he laced up a 5.00" in the back while he was at it. Put the 160 back on the new wheel.
    Couldn't stop him from talking about how much better the bike handled. Faster, sharper, stickier, leaner, meaner.., every adjective you've ever heard in the magazines. And Goosedog is a clean fast rider, so for him to be thrilled with a change was a big deal. It's no fault, he just never knew what he was missing until he got the chance to try something different.

    He happily admitted "You guys were right".

    It's not cause we're genius. It's cause we done f-ked up that too-big-a-tire-on-too-small-a-rim long time ago. So we just try to pass that info along. A few mm sqeeze here & there on a tire makes a huge difference. For some, it's not that important and I suppose that's ok, just as long as you are comfortable on your bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snohobo View Post
    howdy gurus.

    I'm currently one month into a six month supermoto trip around south America on my 690.

    I knew from the beginning that tires would be a challenge, and I'm needing a new rear.

    I found a shinko 150/70/17 for 100 bucks in Lima and thinking about putting it on. its the shinko 705. I usually run either distanzias or just recently the mt60.

    any issues putting the 150 on a 5in rear? I know it'll be flatted out but for 100 I'm hoping it'll be good enough. I'm also hoping to get more than 3300kms which is why my rear had now and is almost completely slick at this point.
    Wow! Sounds like a cool trip. Have a good time.

    For 100 bucks I guess it's hard to go wrong even if it is wrong. I wouldn't worry about how well it would perform or how long it will last. It's a budget tire in a size a tad too small and will probably act like it. If it's the most sensible thing for you to do at the moment, so be it. I know I've hadta compromise myself when I really didn't particularly care for it. I imagine that you've probably got the bike loaded anyway, so cornering prowess is probably not a critical issue for you. I don't think it will last 3300kms though...so have a new-tire purchase stop planned within the next 2000kms or so..maybe when you're in Rio at the topless beach. That's what I would do.
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    ha well put Chase....my learning experince was magnified with my 4.25 and 160 on my kx 500 two torn up shoulders and a real talent for throttle control...man when that 160 spun up it threw me down hard...so now we are on 5.4's with 170 dunny's ( albeit skinny 170's) got to get more pictures...If you gottem post up some profiles of those hoops of yours with the big tire...our boy with that shinko.. ? god knows how old it is... might be oiled out and cracking at the bead...I did my part
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    Yeah some pics would be good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    ...If you gottem post up some profiles of those hoops of yours with the big tire...
    Sure.
    This is the rear wheel on my KTM 525. It's a Rexfelgen 5.5" with a Bridgestone 165 supermoto slick, but a Dunlop 170 supermoto slick fits exactly the same.





    You can see it's a tight fit.
    My favorite tire of all time is the Dunlop 170 supermoto slick. It's a perfect fit, due much to the fact that Dunlop designed their 170 series sm slick for a 5.5" wheel. I cannot run any tire smaller than a 165. And a 165 still works pretty good, but it's immediately noticeable that it's not as good as the 170 even though to the eye they look the same.

    See how well the tire is wearing? All nice and even no spin-up rash balls or cold tearing? That's 100% due to Dave at Fast Bike Industries and his amazing suspension set-up skills. Get your suspension set-up correctly. The best tire will never work as good as it can until you do your suspension.
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    perfect....I'll post up tommorrow a.m. with my 170 and 5.4 marchi...hopefully some bikes will be at the track...I'll see who has what....in fact I have 2 170's on 5 inch hoops...well good start....I need really to find a 4.25 and a 4.5 with 160's..all my picts were taken off to make space...
    Chase I went the other way... race tech..... I'm gonna do some lap times then go swedish internals up front...
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    Race Tech makes good stuff. Rather than the product, I think it's the tuner that makes the real difference. The Ohlins is at a different level though..allows the tuner to take the suspension and tires to the very max until other weakness's appear like chassis and swingarm issues. Ohlins is amazing.

    Remember when that Dunlop 170 came out? I think it was mid/late 2005 or so and only the pro's could get em. And they were the only guys with 5.5" wheels too. We all drooled about The Dream Set-up.
    I've raced against guys with a 170 on a 5" wheel and they did pretty good. I still had em in the corners though, and rather than outright skill allowing me to do that, it's really just correct wheels and tires with killer suspension.
    I make no secret about it. Back in the pits I freely admit "It's not me...it's the bike."
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    Well, I ordered the wrong tire before I came across this thread. I have a 4.25" rear rim. I ordered a 160/60... and had a 150/60 on my rear originally. Here are some before and after pictures, they are the same tire, just a different size obviously.











    Eh, we'll see how well it does... I do a LOT of highway miles, so im sure it will flatten out before I even get to use the sides.
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    ^^Thanks for the pics.
    The whole point of the thread is not to tell guys with the incorrect tire application that they're gonna eat it if they don't see the light, but rather that there is more performance to be had with correct stuff. I know there are guys here who are faster than they know, but certain things about their bike are holding them back a-bit.
    But you're aware of what ya got...it is what it is...so run it and enjoy the ride!
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    This picture is a 160 on a 4.25 inch wheel you will notice the last 3/8" chicken strip is almost vertical rendering it lost rubber for traction. The bead is pinched by the narrower rim..

    Thanks Chase that's exactly right... it was for the question of the best rubber contact and performance between 160's and rim size....
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    ok, not to get off the actual topic of 5 inch rims and 160's but this is kinda for my ol pal Chase.... pardon my sloppy job of grooving I was doing a fast experiment which I can cover on later So, the grooved tire and the smooth tire are both 170 SM spec'd Dunlops the difference is the size of wheel (Chase and I happen to Loooove these tires)....the grooved one is on a 5 inch hoop and the smooth one is on a 5.4 inch hoop....I did a spoke offset for the grooved one and I have a spacer on the rear sprocket for the smooth one.....yep its a Marchi wheel...Now to be clear, these fat combo's are designed for low triple clamp offsets as well in my case a fat 1 inch shortening of wheel base...with 16.5 inch fronts... otherwise putting this big combo on a stock sm will make it handle like a truck....Chase runs Ohlies and I happen to have racetech... those mountain dudes have all the money hope this helps...running them back to back really confirms to me that the 160/165 would be better on the 5 inch than that 170, also I ran a 165 Dunny back to back as well the other day and felt the smaller rubber handled better on the 5 inch ....I actually powerslide the back sideways out of a corner on the gas a couple times to prove to myself the point again...Which brings me to another point, personally the 160 on the 4.25 lets go faster in a track situation than the 5 inch, I know that from bouncing my head off the track far too many times... Thanks for you input as well Chase, your experince is really helpful !
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    Now to be clear, these fat combo's are designed for low triple clamp offsets as well in my case a fat 1 inch shortening of wheel base...with 16.5 inch fronts... otherwise putting this big combo on a stock sm will make it handle like a truck.
    Low offset triples, check.
    16.5 front, check.
    Short swingarm, che..
    Wait... ok now I'm pissed. I really need to get RP to set me up.

    Nice pics and write-up homeslyce. Got all the guru's here at SMJ to thank for keeping me on the straight & narrow over the years. Guys lots smarter than me but not near as good-lookin.
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    mxrider, I just took a good look at those profiles...the new tire doesn't look that bad at all... conti's are narrower than they say.....If those were pirelli's or Avons it may suck...
    kinda looks like my 170 on a 5 incher...give us a ride report when you get some miles on them...You might have the exception...I would have to look back but I think someone else posted up with the same combo ??
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    Tomorrow if I remember I'll take closer profile pictures. I don't have chicken strips on past 150 rears as well as 120/70 fronts, so we'll see if I can use all of this tire. I'll post up a ride report and pictures a few weeks from now once I heat them up and scrub them in. It's hard to do that in south central Texas.

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    I'll chime in since i run a bunch of different tires all on 4.25 rims. I've run pilot powers, bt002's, qualifiers, conti sm's, distanzias, etc...

    As far as what is "correct" and what "fits" 150's are the way to go. That said if you ignore the chain rub, the 160's seem to hook up better to me. This is especially noticeable on corner exits. The 150's seem to kick out more. 160's seem to give better drive. I always feel like i'm running out of tire with the 150, and not so much with the wider tires. I run 160's on all the school bikes now with no ill effects other than chain rub which doesn't bug me.

    On a side note I'm heading to the track with fresh pilot powers, 2ct's, and conti's all on drz400sm's, so I should be able to give a 3 way comparo/shootout! I'll make sure to take notes tommorow!

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    ok... forgot to add this to my previous post but I'll keep it on its own for easier reference......

    So I measured some tires on rims with two straight edges and measured the absolute width see below..


    160 Michy on a 4.25 rim 150mm wide If this was on a 5 " rim prolly adds 3-5mm ?

    165 Dunny on a 5.0 rim 155mm wide

    170 Dunny on a 5.0 rim 153mm wide

    170 Dunny on a 5.4 rim 157mm wide


    I'm on the prowl for a 160 Dunny on a 4.25 to give a real life comparo as the Michy's I think are a wee bit wider for there measurement... now don't forget this is basic general information just to make some aware of the differences....So in other words the 165 dunny looks like the 160 michy size wise....


    NEW INFO

    A 160 michy on a 5 inch is 158 mm wide, this might be my new tire on my 5.5's
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    Here are some better profile pictures of my Contiforce 160/60 on a 4.25 rim



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    Logged about 250 miles on the rear tire. It's considerably more slicker. I had no confidence in my lean angles either. The back end kicked out on me a few times powering out of corners. I am just going to have to take it easy until it wears out.
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    Default Avon Distanzia 160/50 - R17 in a 5.5

    Can be do it? a 160 in a 5.5 rim?

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    I was thinkin the other day while practicing my back ins. When sliding, you are riding on the very edge of the rear tire... so will the slight balloon effect will give you a greater lean angle before giving out?

    Haven't been riding much. Probably put about 500 hard miles on the rear. Gaining some confidence, but I still don't want to push carving corners as hard as my 150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRATOS View Post
    Can be do it? a 160 in a 5.5 rim?

    yep
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    It may give you better lean angle but with less tire contact....
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    It may give you better lean angle but with less tire contact....
    Agreed. The profile will be flattened out at the edge.
    When you reach the edge during a turn, and maybe a little more, it will abruptly let go. Be careful.
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    hey Chase....see above I added another measurement... Those Michy's are wide...now that Dunlop don't make SM tires anymore It looks like the michy 160 x 63 profile on my 5.4 might work...
    I'm glad you are chiming in....I think that's what alot don't experience is the gradual slide a perfect tire wheel combo allow...early warning....
    so here is a tidbit of info for you...a stock BEHR 5 inch with a Dunny slick sprocket and rotor is 29 pounds.....the same in the Excel lite with Talon and a michy ( TUBELESS) is 27 pounds....that could very well be the tube difference... I thought excels were 25 to 30 percent lighter...? just got a set of tubeless excel's, 5.5 inch rear
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    How can we contribute to measuring these tires? Maybe we can get a database going or something.
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    lol... yea....I was contemplating adding another thread with widths......gimme a day or so I'll whip sumthin up..
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    hey Chase....see above I added another measurement... Those Michy's are wide...now that Dunlop don't make SM tires anymore It looks like the michy 160 x 63 profile on my 5.4 might work...
    I'm glad you are chiming in....I think that's what alot don't experience is the gradual slide a perfect tire wheel combo allow...early warning....
    so here is a tidbit of info for you...a stock BEHR 5 inch with a Dunny slick sprocket and rotor is 29 pounds.....the same in the Excel lite with Talon and a michy ( TUBELESS) is 27 pounds....that could very well be the tube difference... I thought excels were 25 to 30 percent lighter...? just got a set of tubeless excel's, 5.5 inch rear
    Where did you find tubeless excels?
    I remember a thread not long ago where somebody weighed a bunch of different wheels, including the Behr and excells w/talons. To my surprise, the weight between the two wasn't much different. The behr is a good wheel, but I always thought it was an anchor. It is compared to the rexfelgens anyway..even with the stock hub, they're obviously way lighter than the behr and handle like it too. But I still think your marchi's are at least 5-6 lbs a set lighter than the rex's. I've seen BST's on some show queens but I've never seen anyone actually run 'em in anger.
    I havn't shopped for michelins in a long time. Where are you finding a 16.5? I'm curious to see what that 160/158mm job looks like on a 5.5.
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    caulking and tape for the excel's, actually a member found 45 buck a roll 3 m tape and doesn't use caulk...so far so good.... well I will be getting the rear Michy soon...
    I stock piled the dunny soft fronts also and extra soft... the Michy is a 160 by 63 by 17 sm...good catch the 16.5 " will be their RR front...
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    guys,

    I'm looking at a new replacement tire for my 5,5" rear Ape SXV wheel.

    as i'm riding almost only on streets, but want to have a SM spec. tire, I thought the Maxxis Goldspeed Intermediate II in the size 160/60-17 could be a possibillity.

    do you guys think these will work on my 5,5" rear wheel?

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    what was on there before ? got picts ?
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    Just finished putting DNA wheels on my afc500. Had to swap bearings cause they are Crf wheels. Found bearings that work (47x20x14 - needed 12 wide) but moved my rim a little bit towards the chain. I dished the rear one full turn n it just clears now. I'm gonna add a chain guide wheel roller setup tomorrow to keep the tire edge clean.. its a 5" rim w 160/60/17 shinko 003 stealth tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    what was on there before ? got picts ?
    on there before was a Dunlop sportmax 180/55-17.

    I have no pics yet as i'm still considering which tire i should take. the goldspeeds have my voice at the moment, but not sure if these are going to fit well on my 5,5" wheel.

    Dunlop sportmax 180/55-17
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    Goldspeed interm. 160/60-17

    so there is a bit of a size difference there..

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    I don't have much to add here but I did want to bring up something. From my limited track experience tire pressure made a huge difference for me. Running contiforce 150 on my 4.25 rim I wasn't real confdent in my tires until I dropped to 20 psi. It made a huge change in The feel. Also like bdm said it wasn't real stable on turn exits. It wanted to let go and slide. This makes me think the 160 he is running on the school bikes gives a better profile on edge.

    You can kind of see how the profile of the tire deformed. After one track day at 20psi I had to reverse the tire.



    Same tire and track and this is what it looked like at 25 psi warm. It never really got up to temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift1313 View Post
    I don't have much to add here but I did want to bring up something. From my limited track experience tire pressure made a huge difference for me. Running contiforce 150 on my 4.25 rim I wasn't real confdent in my tires until I dropped to 20 psi. It made a huge change in The feel. Also like bdm said it wasn't real stable on turn exits. It wanted to let go and slide. This makes me think the 160 he is running on the school bikes gives a better profile on edge.

    You can kind of see how the profile of the tire deformed. After one track day at 20psi I had to reverse the tire.



    Same tire and track and this is what it looked like at 25 psi warm. It never really got up to temp.

    spose you can try it.....back to the original intent of the thread...5 inch wheel 160 tire...IF you feel a DOT 160 on a 4.25 inch rim works for you go for it... me... ? oil and water.... lets not forget.. DOTs are for the street...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diverence View Post
    on there before was a Dunlop sportmax 180/55-17.

    I have no pics yet as i'm still considering which tire i should take. the goldspeeds have my voice at the moment, but not sure if these are going to fit well on my 5,5" wheel.

    Dunlop sportmax 180/55-17
    vs.
    Goldspeed interm. 160/60-17

    so there is a bit of a size difference there..
    I'd go Pirelli Super corsa's ... wider that most in a 160 and great profile...Dunny's are small for the size...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    spose you can try it.....back to the original intent of the thread...5 inch wheel 160 tire...IF you feel a DOT 160 on a 4.25 inch rim works for you go for it... me... ? oil and water.... lets not forget.. DOTs are for the street...

    Im sorry, i thought the original question was 160 on a 4.25" or 5" rim. lots of people were posting DOTs so I was just saying I agree that a 160 on a 4.25" rim seems like a good combo but don't forget about the tire PSI. The Conti's are listed as a DOT tire thats good for track days and thats what i did with it. I have a 150 shinko slick and a 165 maxis presa slick for a 4.25" rim but i cant compare the two yet since the shinkos are mounted... The maxis is a 165/56x17 if i remember right. The shinko 150 measures out to 155mm wide mounted. The 165 measures 164 un-mounted.
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    no worries ..gotta remember we have street guys here and track guys as well... but that is the point... 160 are more suited for 5 inch wheels and 150's are better for 4.25 inch... you were having problems with a DOT on the track...its not a super great tire to begin with, its really more designed for street use.... I'm a tire snob... Dunlops and or Michelins for the track,same but pirelli/metz as well for the street...low dollar slicks or any tire for that matter are going to do weird things, unpredictable...need to read the thread in its entirety.....you have to remember there is a reason why the fastest guys on sm bikes choose those two brands and run min 5 inch rears min...when I first started.. I constantly walking through the pits checkin out what the top ten were using, because that's what I was gonna use... I didn't want to re create the wheel I wanted to start on the best setup I could to learn how to go fast..just like what chase and I were bs'ing about goin up the extra size, now requires more than just adding a 5.5 inch rear wheel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    no worries ..gotta remember we have street guys here and track guys as well... but that is the point... 160 are more suited for 5 inch wheels and 150's are better for 4.25 inch... you were having problems with a DOT on the track...its not a super great tire to begin with, its really more designed for street use.... I'm a tire snob... Dunlops and or Michelins for the track,same but pirelli/metz as well for the street...low dollar slicks or any tire for that matter are going to do weird things, unpredictable...need to read the thread in its entirety.....you have to remember there is a reason why the fastest guys on sm bikes choose those two brands and run min 5 inch rears min...when I first started.. I constantly walking through the pits checkin out what the top ten were using, because that's what I was gonna use... I didn't want to re create the wheel I wanted to start on the best setup I could to learn how to go fast..just like what chase and I were bs'ing about goin up the extra size, now requires more than just adding a 5.5 inch rear wheel...
    It's all good man. The contis were my gateway the bike I got has shinko slicks and a 4.25 rear rim cause.there isn't clearance for a 5. I want to run the good setup too and I did read through the entire post before I posted. All the stuff you posted was on slicks but a lot of others were posting dot stuff. I'm going to dig into this bike over the winter to see if I can stuff a 5 inch rim on here.

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    hey shift ! I found some cool stuff...

    http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...ghlight=rmz450


    http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...ghlight=rmz450

    hope that helps...

    do a search under suzuki RMZ450 wheels.... looks like alot of cool stuff.. hope that helps... I wasn't sure which bike you were referring to...


    I mentioned above I have a 5.5 rim replacing a 5 same excell stuff same spokes... thought maybe juuuust maybe you might swap that 4.25
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    hey shift ! I found some cool stuff...

    http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...ghlight=rmz450


    http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...ghlight=rmz450

    hope that helps...

    do a search under suzuki RMZ450 wheels.... looks like alot of cool stuff.. hope that helps... I wasn't sure which bike you were referring to...


    I mentioned above I have a 5.5 rim replacing a 5 same excell stuff same spokes... thought maybe juuuust maybe you might swap that 4.25

    Thanks Brian! the first link is actually the bike i bought Ill dig through both of them with a fine comb! I do want to go larger on the rear. I will have to space out the sprockets but i have no issue doing that.

    Thanks again!
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    I've got two 05' Husabergs. Just for the hell of it, I measured the swingarms the other day. The supermoto swingarm is 1/2" shorter than the dirt one.

    Pretty sure the KTM bikes are the same. Just something else to consider.

    Had a pilot power 160, no chain rub at all. The Distanzia 160 barely fits, and had lots of chain rub. I have 1.5-2mm at the swingarm, and just 2mm at chain. I think it would have more room if I swapped swingarms, but would be slower to turn. I made a chain guide out of delrin to keep it off the tire. Also tossed the stock rear chain guide and put a real one on to keep the bottom of the chain off the tire.

    This is on the FS650 with Behr 5" rim.
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    good point...yes the ktm's are the same....one trick is to add a link and get the wheel further back...dropped the triples to counter the effect.. no not the best way but cheap....If you look in the KTM SMR section you will see my swinger is 25 mm's shorter than the stock smr...I had a fully built 55o berg... I ran dunny and pirelli's as well metz... I offset that rear wheel as well had a cush drive which really helped....on my marchi's I have the ktm sprocket spacer times two stacked.... saves the day
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    Help please! Bought ktm 520 with 5.5" rear and dunny 165/55 17 and now I want to try touring tires for road trip. Any idea what will fit 520 without hitting swingarm?
    I just tried pilot road 3 in 160/60r17 and need 10+ mm less width. I'm going to shave down 5mm each side of tire and try to make it fit but not looking good. Any ideas besides buying new wheels?

    Diff. Tires that will fit used for touring ?

    Thanks...

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