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    Michelin Pilot Powers for a really incredible price:

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    Interesting... never heard of the pilot power pure. Looks like it'd be good for a motard. Lighter with more grooves for "rain." I read "dirt."

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotz28 View Post
    Interesting... never heard of the pilot power pure. Looks like it'd be good for a motard. Lighter with more grooves for "rain." I read "dirt."
    The Pilot Power Pure is replacing the 2CT, that's why there's such a massive discount on them right now.

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    Holy crap. The 2ct hasn't been out very long at all! Good for us though... Better tires mean more fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotz28 View Post
    Holy crap. The 2ct hasn't been out very long at all! Good for us though... Better tires mean more fun!
    They've been around since I started riding, so at least 4 years. ????

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    Sorry if its been asked alot, but i have the factory IRC runner tires on my klx250 sf and was thinking of putting another tire on the back, what are your thought on running a different tire on the front than on the back? Dangerous? Also plan on going from 130-70-17 to 140-70-17 and im looking at the battlax BT003- Good tire???
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    i just baught power ct2s ill post in a few weeks after i get my bike going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostyFire View Post
    They've been around since I started riding, so at least 4 years. ????
    Obviously I'm way in the past... I just remember buying a set of the original PPs when they first came out. Of course that was for my CBR I had my sophomore year of college...

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    Guys - this is my two cents, just IMHO, ok?
    Based on close to 30 years of riding, probably 10 years of fitting customers with rubber, and many different types of racing, conditions, terrains, and so on.

    Now. Please don't go lowering your tire pressures below recommended unless a temp guage is handy. Tread squirm is a BIG cause of 'unsettled' weirdness in tire feel. Please don't run track treads on the street, unless you are 110% sure of teh conditions - even then you will be wrong. Please match compounds front and rear, until you know FOR SURE what you are getting into. Please run tires on mfg. recommended rim widths if possible.

    It took me a while to read thru this thread, and I hope I don't repeat what is here, but I've gone through a lot of tires, though I usually change them out each year.

    NBL y'all are going to shred more rears than I did on my RZ500, and my interest goes back to '84 when I put street tires on my '79YZ LMAO. That got me busted.

    So - Metzelers are the shiznit. Period. (for me)
    I ran a season of Sportsman on Pirelli Scorpions and loved it - bar-scraping stuck, decent cleaning coming out of the dirt, good street wear.
    THESE have a cool feel, but break away fast, though are predictable on the street and slide.
    Shinko's feel greasy when you push them, but once off they slide well and are cheap fun Friday night rears. I've put a streetbike into 2-wheel drift on Shinkos, scary shit that.
    Anything Continental is going to be good for its *intended purpose* - they've been in the game too long to build crap.
    Bridgestone tires scare me after I've seen a bunch chunk out a few years back, apparently better now, but bad images.

    I hope my fellow 'tards don't think you will warm tires to track temps outside of Death Valley, since on a lap you cool of in the dirt section alone (hint hint) running race weight skins.
    I tend to try to fit tires to the individual, not so much the bike or the brand.

    I would aim, if you think this way, for 600-class intent, as the carcass of the tires meant for sport touring / adventure are really stiff and have crap feel in general - though tough commuter rubber (gravel, glass, construction, accident debris) city guys know what I mean.

    LMK if any of this bothers you, please. And - there's a ton of world-class 600-class supersport rubber to choose from, and most of it will do more than you will ask of it, if it's at the right pressure, on the right rim.
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    Who makes displacement specific tires?? And most 600SS bikes run a 180mm rear, which isn't going to work unless you ride an Ape 550.

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    D00d - seriously?

    Tires have a weight rating. 600/700cc sports bikes dont want the same tires as a Gold Wing.

    And a NEW 600cc Hypersport wears a 180 maybe, but the older ones don't.

    Look HERE for a prime example.

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    First of all, where is this "weight rating" on your Pirelli link? Those Super Corsas are available in sizes for an SV650 to a 'Busa, all the same model tire. Of course a Goldwing won't take the same tire as a 600SS, they have completely different rim sizes as well as performance requirements. 600SS bikes have taken a 180 tire for at least 10 years, how old are you??

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    I picked up a set of Maxxis Pressa's recently and the rear is a 160/60 but the front is a 120/80, anybody run this size? I am use to a 120/70, so will I notice much difference?

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    Default got 3500 out of a conti road attack same bike,

    Quote Originally Posted by lammyracer View Post
    More than 2500 miles on a rear? That the most i've gotten so far. If I can find a decent tire that gets more like 3500 that'd be great!
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    I have run the regular Pilot power on my dr-z sm and found them to be very sticky while pushing them hard.I loved them! But they also wore out quickly.
    Since i am not doing any track days, i figured i would try a new(to me) tire that is supposed to provide good life. Avon makes a tire labeled as a commuter called Roadrider. I got them at a decent price so i figured what the hell. when i have time to really push them in the twisty's ill post up about hot they feel.
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    Canadians listen up:

    Pete's Superbike in Quebec is ridiculously cheap. You need to create an account to see the tire prices, but for example, I just picked up a set of Distanzias for $304CAD SHIPPED with tax.

    http://www.petes-superbike.com/index...distanzia.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlim66 View Post
    I picked up a set of Maxxis Pressa's recently and the rear is a 160/60 but the front is a 120/80, anybody run this size? I am use to a 120/70, so will I notice much difference?

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    I have the same setup on my DRZ sm. Very nice and sticky tires! These are the 1st set of tires that I have scrubbed the entire front tire. The taller profile seems to turn in quicker.
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    Whew! Just got my husky 610 back, and it has a BT016 on the back. I have been riding a DR-ZSM with dual sport compound distanzias on it. I was thinking how lucky I was and there wasn't much sand on the roads around my house, then I rode the 610 around a bit today and there is a huge difference! The distanzias don't care about the sand/grit on the roads- they grip like crazy anyhow. Not racetrack grip like the bridgestones, but good street grip. Interesting back to back for me. Oh- and the bridgestones don't grip worth a crap in pure dirt! Fine for light trail riding, but trying to go from 60-0 was kinda interesting.

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    i recently put some BT003RS on my rims, must say for the riding i do they are amazing. grip really nicely for a street tyre and might last a bit too.

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    Whats the letter designations for the distanzias? I want to get a set I think at motostrano bc they have really good prices but I am wondering what one I should buy?

    only one option for the front 120/70HR17 but for the back 150/60HR17, 150/70HR17, and 150/70VR17

    I have a drz400sm
    Thanks in advance guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottycbr View Post
    Whats the letter designations for the distanzias? I want to get a set I think at motostrano bc they have really good prices but I am wondering what one I should buy?

    only one option for the front 120/70HR17 but for the back 150/60HR17, 150/70HR17, and 150/70VR17

    I have a drz400sm
    Thanks in advance guys
    The 150/60 is the SM compound rear and is the one I'd go for. Used em loads on several different SMs and only have good things to say about em.

    The 150/70 is a harder dual sport compound. I had one on the back of my XR650 for a while and it lasted much better than the SM compound but didn't grip as well, especially noticable in the wet.
    - I didn't know they did them in two different speed ratings though. H rated is meant to be good for up to 130mph and V rated for up to 149mph. I would think the V rated one would be an even stronger, stiffer carcass and be even harder to get heat into, so very unlikely to be what you'd want on a DRZ

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    what he said.

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    excellent right up Thank you muchly! Motostrano expect an order from me soon!

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    Never had a problem with the Shinko 005 advanced. Front sticks good after its hot. Most of my riding is late night ripping around Boston. I really don't think the rear tire is that big of a deal! As long as its not made of old Barbie dolls and grabs when its hot I'm good with the 005's. Went though 2 sets last yr only cost $400. Nothing wrong with a cheap price and a goofy name. Thay have a ultra soft track/road I haven't tried. If I get the chance this yr to ride on them I'll give a run down on them. Maybe get it on the track.
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    Can anyone tell me how well BT016's slide? Im looking for a tire with good grip, but doesnt hold on for dear life while I back it in.
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    You've found your tire then- the BT016 I had on the SM610 had great grip in the sweepers but had a nice controllable slide when you wanted it to.

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    hey guys i dont read well enough to go through 200 posts.

    whats up...04 625smc that will see mostly twisties and occasional dirt roads and trails. anyone? gracias very much

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    Bridgestone bt016,great grips on the corners ,mileage wise not that good.From 1-10 in my opinion? i say 8
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    ive been shopping for a tire for my wr250x and it came with a bt090 on the rear in a 140. there doesnt seem to be room for a 150 so that hinders tire selection severely. also i read on the bt090 that it was designed specifically for the wrx and the 690SMC. it seemed to work well but its the first tire so i have nothing to compare it to. has anyone tried to fit a 150 on the bike? or the balleax bt090 on any other bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gud2go View Post
    Bridgestone bt016,great grips on the corners ,mileage wise not that good.From 1-10 in my opinion? i say 8
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    i just havent found it in a 140. i was going to get the bt003 but im sure it won t last and i dont go to the track. just tard around town with all the drz's. so i think im going to just put the bt090 back on it. seemed suitable.

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    i replaced my dunlop qualifiers with a set of power pures. i noticed the width was way different. they are both 160/60/17s but the pures are a good 5/8-3/4" narrower. the DQs had chain marks on them and were 1/16" from the swingarm on the other side, and the pures had 3/8" on both sides. something to note if your buying pures. i haven't got to put any miles on them yet, but i can't wait.
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    My BT016's are ready to be replaced again after only 2000 miles and I'm looking at trying some sport-touring tires for better mileage. I had a new PP2CT 120/70-17 that I put on the front, so I'm thinking a Pilot Road 2ct for the rear. Only problem is the 150/70-17 size. Anyone have any experience with the 150/70-17? Good or bad? The BT016 are great tires, just don't last. The rear was past the wear bars at 1900 miles this time.
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    well i have alwase had pilot powers on the front, they are awsome, and on the back i have alwase had pilot powers, but in search of a tire that would last longer and not get a flat center i tryed the conti sm tire, its alright, but not as much grip as the pilot power and it lasted about as long as the pilot power. The worst part about it was it would spin and lose grip exiting corners. so now im thinking about the pilot power 2ct, good grip on sides and center wont get flat.

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    Regarding the PP's vs. PP2CT's, quite certain the center of the 2CT's are the same as the entire compound as the original PP's.

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    This is my Pilot Power 2ct 160/60 on a 4.25 rim. What should the "profile" and sidewall look like and maybe someone can explain this with some detail and if it has already been explained, sorry just hit me with a link. Also if I change brands, who's wide and who's narrow?

    I am getting ready to replace the rear and step down to a 150/60. Thinking of the
    bt016, conti sm, or distanzias and don't know what to get. I have been really happy with this tire but if you guys think something would be better suited please let me know. I only ride street so far and the bike is an xr650r.

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    Dayem, great thread, I learned a ton (read the whole thing several times)!

    A few observations:

    1) For my SM510R, it looks like 150/60-120/70 are the def. sizes to go with based on my stock rim widths.

    2) If you plan on doing much off-roading/trail riding your options seem to lean toward the Avons http://www.americanmototire.com/cata...th=200_201_202

    3) If you are mainly on the street and want SM specific tires the Conti's look like a respectable all-rounder (what came on my bike currently) http://www.compacc.com/p/Continental...-H-Rated-Front

    Many are going with/have good things to say about the Bridgestone BT-016 (These came factory on my 08 Honda CBR1000rr, and I put 4000 hard miles, and than a 1000 piddling around miles waiting for my new 002RS's to arrive).

    4) A racing bud did a track day at Barber this weekend, and took out a 09 SMR510 shod with Bridgestone BT 003RS's, and he was very happy running with them balls out for a 20 min. session, they are priced right, and I loved the 002RS's on my CBR, so Í'll prolly check out the 003 RS's for my Husky, come Spring time.

    5) Shinko enduro and street tires got mixed reviews, looks like they could be good for the more experienced 'tarder, but could instill a bit of fear due to lack of feedback..

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    well i'm looking for something new.... anyone hear about any new tires coming out for SM? i do a mix of highway, commuting, offroad trail riding and city adventures, so i need a tire that can do it all well

    just had 2 back to back sets of distanzias, the first one two years ago was cupping a bit, but this last set the front has cupped out so bad that the steering actually locks while going around banked corners; its getting pretty hectic riding the bike, and i'm not down to even the wear bars on the rear. all in all its been a hot summer and hard riding but still, i'm a little disappointed that i can't get a bit more life outta them. this last set has lasted a little less than a year. once the front comes up its smooth riding again though, lol.

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    I order a Michelin Pilot Road 2 Dual Compound Tire 3 days ago from Competition Accessories and installed it today. Have not rode on it yet, but will report back in a couple of weeks. http://www.compacc.com/Tires
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    umm.. hey, my two cents worth, so take it for what it is worth..

    cupping can be caused by a lot of factors, and unfortunatly it is almost never the tire's fault.

    Two major factors cup tires. One, tire preasure. if a tire is off preasure for the aplication it is being used for, the tire won't reach tempriture and it will wear the block out quickly. but at the edge of the block, where the tire warms the fastest, it wears the least. i know plenty of people will disagree with me on that one, but i tore up a bridgestone on one of my bikes, and a tech at honda nearly broke my arm making me put another back on the bike. he then upped my runniing preasure by 5 PSI and boom, twice the miles and nearly twice the time to wear it out....

    two. when is the last time you serviced the front fork oil on your bike? poor oil viscosity in the front forks alow the tire to "hop". i know, another of those do what things.. but look at a cuped tire on a car. many techs will blame bad shocks or struts. a bike is no differant, and three to five times as sensitive to the little things as a car.

    a quality tire should wear well in almost any application, and these sumos are very light on thier tires in general... (except a few of us that can't keep from doing things the cops slap us for.) ... but once the tire has started cuping, it will only get worse.

    one more therory i have heard passed arround is some tires will react to particular stearing angles. or the fork rake angle and the tire groove angle work against each other and destry the tire. the therory holds water, but i have never seen it.

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    Ok, so I need some help with tire sizes.
    I've got an 05' KTM 450 SMR with excels (5 inch rear)
    I've got to get a new tire soon and there's a few I'm looking at. Problem is I can't find actual width measurements listed for any of the tires. They are all 160/60/17's but as we all know each tire type measures differently. After measuring the slicks I had on the bike before(which made no contact with the swing arm or the chain) I need a tire that's 6.5 inches or less in width. I have a 160/60/17 Michelin Pilot Road 2 mounted on it right now and it's WAY to big. I've had to trim both sides considerably to reduce the rubbing and it still rubs a bit on the chain. I've trimmed it so much I'm not really comfortable riding with it anymore. So let that be a warning to anyone looking at that tire in that size and on a 5" rim. It's at least a 1/2" wider if not more than other 160's.

    So I'm looking at these tires:
    Avon Distanzia 160/60/17
    Metzeler M3 160/60/17
    Michelin pilot pure 160/60/17

    I'm really wanting the distanzia but I've heard the 160 runs bigger than other 160's. My number 2 would be the Pure.

    Could somebody tell me the actual width of those tires? None of my local shops stock any of those tires in the sizes I need, otherwise I'd just go measure them myself. :-/

    To measure them I'm just using a tape measure. I place the tape measure on the tire(keeping it straight) and I line up(just eyeball'in) the end of the tape measure with the edge of the tire then just look down at the other edge and see what measurement it lines up with on the tape measure.

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    If you want the distanzias, why not get them? I'd get the 150 size just to be sure. Won't hurt anything, if anything it will make the bike handle slightly sharper. They don't rub on my DR-Z with a 4.5" rim...

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    Well, I've read and been told not to run a 150 on a 5" rim. It distorts the profile of the tire. I originally ordered and mounted the pilot road 2 in a 150 and it just didn't work, the side walls were pushed out pretty far and it just didn't look right.
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    That may be. I could very easily believe the 160 distanzia would be quite a bit wider- it has a lot deeper tread, and at a further distance (deeper tread) from the center of the "arc" of the tire, the wider the tire is. The distanzia already has a relatively flat profile too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen1125 View Post
    Well, I've read and been told not to run a 150 on a 5" rim. It distorts the profile of the tire. I originally ordered and mounted the pilot road 2 in a 150 and it just didn't work, the side walls were pushed out pretty far and it just didn't look right.
    I dunno what width the 690's run but they fit a 160 easily. Im sure there is a difference between the two bikes in there somewhere though.
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    Trying something new on my 690smc went through two Pirelli supercorsas got about 1200 miles each. going to try the Conti SM tire this time. guys at Motostrano said the stock tire was like one step above track tire so hopefully these wear a little better

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    Ok, so I've read through the whole thread and.....what tire should I get for my DRZ?



    Just kidding, I actually know that the Distanzia is right for me, but I'm wondering when everybody says the traction in the wet is not as good on the Dual Sport vs. the Supermoto compound.....are we talking spirited cornering/track or 60mph hwy commuting...cuz, I do mostly the latter in the rain.....therefore the high mileage life of the Dual Sport compound is very appealing (80 mile commute per day, 4-5 days a week, with at least half on the hwy @ 60-70)
    Thanks!
    '07 DRZ400SM 3X3, JD Kit, FMF Powercore4/Powerbomb Head Pipe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futureman View Post
    Ok, so I've read through the whole thread and.....what tire should I get for my DRZ?



    Just kidding, I actually know that the Distanzia is right for me, but I'm wondering when everybody says the traction in the wet is not as good on the Dual Sport vs. the Supermoto compound.....are we talking spirited cornering/track or 60mph hwy commuting...cuz, I do mostly the latter in the rain.....therefore the high mileage life of the Dual Sport compound is very appealing (80 mile commute per day, 4-5 days a week, with at least half on the hwy @ 60-70)
    Thanks!
    Been a while since I had the DS tyre, but the way I remember it was......

    it wasn't terrifying in the wet or anything.... perfectly safe for "sensible" riding, but if you're gonna dick about in the wet, make sure you've got plenty of space.

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